343 Technology overflow

Hearing Song Dingxiang's words, Hong Feng was stunned. He was a leader and did not know these things in depth in advance. The theme of today's talk was not originally about cooperation with Hanlu Machine Tool, but just about purchasing these chips from Hanlu Machine Tool. What everyone thought more about was how to obtain more chips through Hanlu Machine Tool channels, so no one cared about what its ownership was.

Just now, Lin Zhenhua fought with Song Dingxiang, Hu Jin and others, and Hong Feng saw it. The ideas proposed by Lin Zhenhua gave Hong Feng a great inspiration. In fact, he also knew very well that the 858 Factory and some other equipment manufacturing companies in the system had limited technical strength and were not enough to provide enough equipment for the entire system. Lin Zhenhua suggested that the Science and Technology Commission system be opened to local enterprises and allowed local enterprises to participate in military production. Hong Feng agreed with this idea.

But if Hanlu Machine Tool Company is a three-invested enterprise, this problem becomes more complicated. From Hong Feng's psychology, state-owned enterprises are the most trustworthy, followed by private enterprises, and three-invested enterprises are almost no longer considered. He looked up at Lin Zhenhua and asked: "Manager Lin, Director Song just said, your Hanlu Machine Tool Company has a background in US-owned enterprises. Is this situation true?"

Lin Zhenhua did not answer, but turned to look at Chen Tian. Chen Tian smiled and said to Hong Feng: "Deputy Director Hong, I will tell you about this matter later. But I can express my opinion here that Zhenhua's Hanlu Machine Tool Company is politically trustworthy."

"Well, okay." Hong Feng nodded and stopped asking about the details. He knew that Chen Tian was from the security department and political sensitivity was enough. Since he dared to endorse Hanlu Machine Tool Company, the company should not have too many problems.

"Let's do this, Manager Lin, your suggestion to open the defense industry to the private sector is very meaningful. I will submit it to the Office Meeting of the Science and Technology Commission for discussion. We will fully respect your ideas about the five-axis chip. Now can you tell you in detail how you consider the cooperation between us?" Hong Feng said.

Lin Zhenhua said: "It's totally OK. Dear leaders, we came to the Science and Technology Commission this time to establish a long-term and stable cooperative relationship with the Science and Technology Commission. There is no conflict between our parties in their essential goals, and they are all for the sake of the country's strength and the people's prosperity, so our cooperation foundation is stable.

I think it is true that the national defense industry adheres to the confidentiality requirement. But overemphasizing confidentiality and even keeping confidentiality on issues that are not particularly valuable for confidentiality is not conducive to the development of the national defense industry. No matter how capable a man and three help, the Science and Technology Commission is, there are always things that cannot be taken care of. In this regard, tens of thousands of local enterprises play a full role."

"Well, that's right. Tell me, how do you plan to play a role." Hong Feng asked.

Lin Zhenhua said: "We hope that the Science and Technology Commission can list us as an equipment supplier for the national defense industry. Our Hanlu Machine Tool Company has very rich experience in machine tool design and manufacturing. Moreover, with our cooperation with Spischer Company in the United States, our technical level will have a significant leap. We hope that the Science and Technology Commission will send experts to inspect our company and clarify which equipment can be provided by our company. For example, after we obtained the five-axis chip this time, we have formulated a plan to develop a five-axis linkage machining center. The Science and Technology Commission only needs to tell us your needs for the five-axis machining center, and there is no need to start a new job."

"This is obviously your new start. Our 858 Factory is fully capable of designing and manufacturing five-axis machine tools." Hu Jin couldn't help but speak.

Lin Zhenhua asked: "Director Hu, let's not talk about whether your design and manufacturing level are better than our Hanlu Machine Tool Company. Even if your level is higher, will your production capacity be sufficient?"

"Of course enough, we can fully meet the needs of all enterprises under the Science and Technology Commission." Hu Jin said.

Lin Zhenhua laughed in silence: "Director Hu, it is not only your Science and Technology Commission system that needs five-axis machine tools, right? There are countless industrial enterprises across the country that need high-end processing equipment. Can you all meet it?"

"They...they..." Hu Jin stammered. He thought that the affairs of local enterprises had nothing to do with him, but in this way, wouldn't it mean that the local government had to establish another equipment production system? This is still a new concept.

Lin Zhenhua said: "Director Hu can't answer it, right? In fact, whether you do five-axis machine tools or not, our Hanlu machine tools must be done. Your military system needs it, and local enterprises also need it, and we can consider exporting in the future. Therefore, the design and manufacturing of five-axis machine tools should be mainly based on our local enterprises. We can accept orders from the Science and Technology Commission, and we can also give the Science and Technology Commission sufficient discounts in terms of price, of course..."

Speaking of this, he glanced at Song Dingxiang with his eyes and swallowed the words behind him. He originally planned to say that no matter how cheap it was, it would not cost 100 yuan per unit, but then he thought about it, let it go. Everyone finally took the Liangzi over, so why should he slap Old Song in the face again?

"Then what are our 858 factory doing?" Hu Jin asked. According to Lin Zhenhua, there is nothing wrong with the 858 factory. Thousands of people in the factory are still relying on the five-axis machine tool project to pay bonuses.

Lin Zhenhua said: "Director Hu, Factory 858 and our Hanlu Machine Tool Company can establish a cooperative relationship. As far as I know, you have many unique skills in CNC technology, and we really hope to get your guidance. We can form a strategic cooperative relationship and jointly develop CNC machine tools. In the future, some machine tools are produced in our Hanlu Machine Tool Company, and the other part is produced in your 858 Factory. The machine tools you produce not only supply military systems, but also supply them to local areas. This is not much better than the one-acre three-point land that you are guarding the military industry?"

"I'm afraid this won't work." Hu Jin shook his head, "We are a military-industrial enterprise, and the technology we develop is confidential."

"I want to talk about this issue with Deputy Director Hong," Lin Zhenhua said. "Some time ago, I talked with some economic students at Renmin University. They told me a word called technology overflow. If the technology developed by a department is always in its own hands, it is a pity. It should be able to drive the development of other departments so that it can maximize its benefits. Our country has invested a lot of funds in military scientific research in the past few decades, forming many technologies that have reached the international advanced level, but these technologies have not been invested in the field of national economic construction, which is a huge waste."

The concept of technology overflow used by Lin Zhenhua here is different from its original meaning. In economics, technology overflow refers to the technology brought by multinational corporations when investing in the host country, which will have a demonstration effect on the host country's enterprises, thereby driving the technological development of host country enterprises. Lin Zhenhua borrows this concept here to propose to transfer technology in the field of national defense and military industry to the private sector and drive the technological development of private countries. The two have some similarities.

Hearing Lin Zhenhua's words, Chen Tian added: "We have also noticed the issue that Zhenhua mentioned. The military industry and civilian industry in developed countries are highly related. The computer technology and nuclear technology developed by the United States for military purposes in World War II were quickly applied to the civilian field after the war. The United States recently proposed the Star Wars plan, which is also a military plan, but judging from the current situation, its military progress is far less than the promotion of civilian technology. I think China's military development should also learn from this model of the United States."

"Xiao Zhang, record this issue and form a briefing after the meeting. Please ask several directors to take a look." Hong Feng said to a staff member next to him. Obviously, what Lin Zhenhua and Chen Tian said made him feel very valuable.

After Lin Zhenhua finished talking about the big truth, he returned to reality. He said: "Some of the technologies currently owned by Factory 858 have no confidentiality value for foreign countries. People also have such technology. Even if you shout at them with a loudspeaker, they are too lazy to listen. In this case, you only have one person to keep your confidentiality, that is our own civil industry in China."

"Haha, let Xiaolin say this, it seems that this is really the case." Hong Feng laughed.

The problem Lin Zhenhua mentioned is actually a layer of window paper. Before it was exposed, no one thought it was ridiculous. Some technologies have been found to be very ridiculous. Some technologies have been found abroad and the military industry system has been developed, and only local Chinese companies do not master it. At this time, foreign countries can understand Chinese ***, but military industry *** is ridiculous. Isn’t this arguing between one’s own people and one’s own people?

"Old Song, this problem is worth studying. Let's carefully clean up and see which technologies in the system have been developed abroad. There is no need to keep it confidential. If you need to decrypt it, just decrypt it." Hong Feng ordered Song Dingxiang.

Song Dingxiang quickly recorded this in his notebook and replied: "Okay, let's do it as soon as possible."

"It cannot be fully decrypted, and it is necessary to maintain a proper sense of mystery." Chen Tian reminded.

"This is natural, so it's not a problem for Xiao Chen to remind him." Hong Feng replied.

Of course, Chen Tian’s reminder makes sense. There are two projects for confidentiality in the national defense industry. One is to avoid the technology you have exclusively mastered by foreigners, and the other is to conceal the ability you have achieved and play a strategic role in confusing your opponents. What Chen Tian said is the latter project. If everything is decrypted in a mess, when foreigners look at it, it turns out that this is the case in China’s military industry, it will also have an impact on national defense security.

Of course, Hong Feng knew this very well. How to grasp the relationship between technology transfer and confidentiality cannot be explained clearly in just one sentence. However, with this idea, it is not difficult to do it in detail.
Chapter completed!