Wang Ju glanced at the memorial and said, "The country has suffered such a great humiliation. Your Majesty issued an edict to go to Guo Kui to fight Jiaozhi in the south. I also thought it was the right way. However, I thought about giving it to it, but there were two inappropriate things."

"Those two inappropriate things?"

"Please see Pan Mei destroying the Southern Han Dynasty. Taizu kept Pan Mei in Tanzhou for two years. Pan Mei then trained local soldiers on Jinghu South Road and sent scouts to inquire about the news about the Southern Han Dynasty. Therefore, the world was decided in one fell swoop, and it took not long to take down the entire Southern Han Dynasty. However, I asked Your Majesty, has Mr. Guo ever been to Lingnan and is familiar with Jiaozhi?"

Guo Kui served in a military post on Jinghu South Road for a period of time and made some military achievements.

But Lingnan, I'm sorry, Guo Kui has never been there once, let alone become familiar with Jiaozhi.

"Your Majesty, Pan Meiping, the Southern Han Dynasty sent troops at the end of the year. Before the arrival of Spring Miasma, the Southern Han Dynasty was decided. However, when did Mr. Guo send troops?"

"Muscity?"

"It's not malaria, but to be precise, malaria. When Taizu was pacifying Hedong, he was at the city of Taiyuan. Because summer came, he formed troops in the water and grasslands, which caused the three armies to be infected with malaria and had to withdraw their troops. When Cao Bin pacifying the southern Tang Dynasty, the three armies also began to have malaria. At one time, Taizu issued an edict to withdraw his troops and could not unify the south of the Yangtze River. Moreover, it was in Lingnan, with the most mosquitoes and falciparum, and falciparum was the most popular place, so there were all kinds of strange malaria legends. Besides, the three armies headed south in June again."

"The Kapok Department migrated many people to Lingnan, why are they safe and sound?" This is exactly what Zhao Xu is most worried about now.

"Your Majesty, not only the Kapok Division, but also because the maritime merchants migrated the people, many poor households in the north were desperate. So they went south one after another. Although the total number was less than the number of immigrants in the Kapok Division, from last autumn to this summer, the scale of the southward movement exceeded the scale of any migration of the Kapok Division."

"that is."

"That's right. Although malaria on Fujian Road is not as harmful as Lingnan, there are also some. But why didn't there happen? Because they came in batches, with only a thousand people and only a few dozen people. And most of them were walking around and evacuated immediately after arriving at the destination. Even if there are malaria patients, they are mostly isolated, so there will be no large-scale vicious infection. Unfortunately, Zhang Zihou left Sanshi and went to Huzhou, otherwise His Majesty could ask him about it. However, the three armies were different. Hundreds of thousands of people were crowded together, sometimes marching, sometimes camping, so mosquitoes suck blood from each other and spreading this bacteria to each other... Therefore, as expected by my ministers,

Mr. Guo went south this time. There may be casualties, and even the number of casualties exceeded the number of combat casualties. Moreover, Jiaozhi is a tropical rainforest climate. The rivers are dense and the jungle is dense, so it is almost impossible to see the light of the sky. Even if Guo Kui takes over the capital of Jiaozhi, as long as the king of Jiaozhi with his ministers retreats, he will become the second Li Jiqian. And it is more troublesome than the desert Gobi terrain on Li Jiqian. If it continues to be wiped out, the longer the delay, the greater the number of non-combat reductions in military and civilians will be, and he will only be able to withdraw his troops in the end. That is, Mr. Guo went south this time and could defeat Jiaozhi, but could not destroy Jiaozhi."

"Look at this memorial." Zhao Xu took out another memorial, which was written by Zhang Qing.

Zhang Feng was still in Hebei. When he heard the imperial court sending a large army south in June, he didn't believe it at first, and sent someone to inquire and confirm. He immediately thought of him in Qingzhou before, and Wang Ju had discussed with him how to destroy Jiaozhi.

So he wrote a book and explained all the various disadvantages, which were generally similar to what Wang Ju said.

He also said that if he wanted to destroy Jiaozhi, he could not fight like this, except Wang Ju, there was no second candidate available. Then he talked about that discussion, and Zhang Feng pointed out in a vague way that Wang Ju had already expected that this war would happen.

Everyone was a little unbelievable when his memorial arrived in the capital. They expected it at that time, which was amazing.

However, there is also Wang Ju's inexplicable memorial.

Therefore, Zhao Xu summoned Wang Ju to the capital for inquiries.

Wang Ju looked at it, of course, Zhang Feng would never have any malicious intentions, and this is also for the sake of the country's recommendation of talents.

He thought for a while and said, "Your Majesty, there was such a conversation."

"What kind of time is that?"

"In the fourth year of Xining, I was lucky to win, but when I looked at the movements of the court, I knew that the court did not want to continue using troops, so I started to govern Qingzhou so that the people could quickly go from chaos to An, and also launched the development fund with the remaining money in the hands of the people. However, I then felt that the Gu'an faction had the upper hand through various movements of the court. In addition, I did not take the team, so there would not be many people in the court to speak for me. Then this victory was not only ineffective, but also aroused the disgust of many scholars and officials. Of course, I would not stay in Qingzhou for long, so my development fund was first ten or five years, and then all of them were banned, and it turned into one year."

Wang Jidafang said the team and left Zhao Xu speechless.

"However, I also wanted my own way out at that time. I didn't want to stay in the court anymore, and the scholars and officials would not let me go back to the court. Therefore, I secretly thought about a place, which could make a little contribution to the court, and would not make people pay attention to it, so I thought of Quanzhou."

There must be a saying, otherwise it will be too weird.

"But when I thought of Quanzhou, I suddenly thought of Jiaozhi. The south is in its indifference, and the people are getting richer and richer. But the Jiaozhi battles endlessly, lacking population and wealth. And our dynasty in the south are empty. Will Jiaozhi be coveted? I thought of another thing. When Nong Zhigao rebelled, Li Foma took the initiative to send 20,000 troops to help Song, so I took advantage of the situation to invite profit. Luckily, Di Qing firmly opposed it, and Jiaozhi did not succeed. Then Nong Zhigao asked Jiaozhi for help, and Li Foma immediately sent troops to rescue him. Maybe the Li Dynasty's troops had just arrived, and Nong Zhigao was defeated, and Li Foma immediately withdrew his troops. It shows that since then, Jiaozhi has had some ideas about our dynasty."

"Isn't it related to Shen and Liu?"

"What is the relationship with them? The main reasons are three. One is that the Khitan sent people to blackmail our dynasty. Our dynasty focuses on the Liao Kingdom, the second is that the disaster is the great disaster, and the third is that Su Jian abandoned his martial arts, so Jiaozhi decisively launched his army."

"Su Yan, Su Yan..."

"It's not Su Yan alone, at least he can be loyal to his death. For example, when Guo Guan was in the past, when Shan met Weiliang, Guo Guan in turn gave his family to Li Yuanhao and shot him. However, as the folk proverb says, good people are bullied and horses are ridden. The more afraid of trouble, the more things happen. The more they want to seek peace, the more they want to go. Peace gradually fades away. If peace and virtue are transformed by benevolence and righteousness alone, then why should the country need laws? This is the Chinese people, and they are transformed into externals. It may not be useful to talk about benevolence and righteousness to them."

"You guessed it then..."

"Not that, I have that kind of vision, and I just thought about it, and I chatted with Zhang Zhifu by the way."

"Why didn't you remind me earlier?"

"Your Majesty. That's really wronged me. Just like when I went to Beijing to report my work the year ago, I said that Jiaozhi should not be underestimated. With my ideas, the court should be prepared. How could Su Yan be expected? "When Wang Ju said, this is also a fact. In his thoughts, Jiaozhi would invade. After all, the opportunity was rare. A severe drought. Wang Anshi continued to make money, which led to the people's difficulties. In addition, the Khitan forced the Song Dynasty, how could Jiaozhi miss this opportunity? However, if the border is prepared, the losses should not be great. But God knows that Su Yan actually did the opposite.

"Su Jian reveals the three people on the cloth to attack the three people, among which there is the name of the minister. How can I not avoid suspicion? It was not until I heard that the court sent troops to inquire. After the news was indeed true, I thought it was wrong, and then I came up with this letter. This is also helpless. In fact, if it was not for the special situation, I really didn't want to deal with military affairs. If I lose, I will be punished immediately. If I win, there will be many jealous people, and I will be demoted sooner or later... But I hope that my expectations are wrong. Guo Gong destroyed Jiaozhi in one fell swoop."

"What if it can't be destroyed?"

"Then Your Majesty will give me the presidency of Guangdong and Guangxi affairs and have the right to act cheaply. Moreover, the situation in Jiaozhi is special, just like Li Jiqian was in the desert back then, and it is even more complicated than the desert. It is not only the number of troops used, but the local soldiers from Guangdong and Guangxi are enough. If it is not used well, even if you lead hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians south like Guo, you will not be able to return with all your achievements. Therefore, I have to give me more than three years to learn from Pan Mei, and wait for me to understand the situation in Jiaozhi, train a strong local soldiers in the local area, and they are relatively immune to malaria."

Zhao Xu thought about Pan Meiping's story of Nan Han again. Pan Mei did not use many officers and soldiers. Most of his subordinates were local soldiers he trained on Jinghu South Road, and that time he used troops very little. In this way, Wang Ju's statement was also feasible, so he asked: "Is the force of troops important?"

"It doesn't matter if the troops are not important, it depends on where the soldiers are. If it is a well-trained army in Guangdong and Guangxi, the more the better."

“Immunity?”

"That is, to put it bluntly, it is the resistance of everyone, just like the people in the north and the people in the south. I first went to the south, and every summer came, I didn't know where to avoid the heat. But after staying for a few years, I have gradually become accustomed to it. This is immunity."

When it comes to expressing your skills, you have to show it, and Zhao Xu's eyes will be gentler.

"Does it take three years?"

"It may be shorter than this time, or it may be longer. After all, it is a country. But it is better to hear Mr. Guo's good news."

In fact, Jiaozhi is still easier to deal with at this time, but Guo Kui is just like that. He can't even grasp the time to send troops, so what else can he say?

However, the longer it was, the harder it was to deal with the country, which made the Mongolian cavalry defeated twice. Later, although Emperor Zhu Di destroyed it, he had to retreat because it was difficult to manage it.

Therefore, Wang Ju had been thinking about strategies for a long time.

It wasn't that he would definitely be able to destroy Jiaozhi after spending three years in Guangdong and Guangxi, but it was still very difficult.

It was not until the navigation was promoted that he came up with the plan of the Beibu Gulf Pirates, a relatively cruel plan. But Wang Ju cannot be blamed for being done by Jiaozhi first. Moreover, the monkeys in the south later massacred Han people, one of them was more powerful than the other, and they talked about benevolence and righteousness to them, which was undoubtedly a fool like Su Yanguo persuaded them.

However, Wang Ju would not say anything about the specific idea, and he also saved Guo Kui a face.

But why is Guo Kui?

The candidate was chosen by Wang Anshi. Zhang Feng did a good job in the north, and the court did not dare to move. Moreover, Zhang Feng did not seem to have no experience in leading the army independently. Wang Shao was very powerful, but Wang Shao was disgusted with sending troops to Jiaozhi, thinking that it was not cost-effective and might not be able to win. Moreover, Wang Shao had a conflict with Wang Anshi because of the taxation of Hehuang. As for Wang Ju, Wang Anshi automatically dealt with it. So, except Guo Kui, who else is qualified to command the hundreds of thousands of military and civilians who went south?

"Can you have a complete plan?"

"Some of them, even those maritime merchants will need support at that time."

“Let the maritime businessmen support it?”

"Your Majesty, I'm sorry for me to keep you from being in a hindrance, and this trip by Mr. Guo may not be as I thought."

Zhao Xu is not good to ask any more. Besides, Guo Kui may not be as pessimistic as Wang Ju said. Can't the Song army, which has been armed to the teeth, destroy a single Jiaozhi? What I am most worried about now is that I am afraid of how many casualties caused by malaria. Moreover, on the way to Beijing, there have been news from the south that the army is indeed infecting malaria, and many civilians and soldiers have died.

But now that things have come to this point, we can't say that we'll withdraw our troops, so we have to continue fighting.

So he changed the topic and asked: "How many people have migrated this time?"

"There are more than 400,000 people," Wang Ju replied. In fact, there were more than 550 ships, all loaded in the cabins, and took away more than 600,000 people. However, these people came from all over the world, and many of them were hidden households in various prefectures. Unless Wang Ju's secret iron cabinet was forced to open and read the account book, they would not be able to find out the specific numbers even if Zhao Xu issued an edict to send someone down to check.

"Do they have malaria?"

"Yes, please remind me. The maritime merchants took the people to take many precautions, but malaria still occurred. Although the harm is not serious, especially on an island, there are evil mosquitoes. Although there are countless sandalwood trees on that island, they have to be transferred to other places. Your Majesty, don't worry about these immigrants. There is a serious lack of population overseas, and those maritime merchants love these people more than officials."

Zhao Xu laughed and said, "How did those sandalwood trees deal with them in the end?"

He is still concerned about this. Although the maritime merchants made money, there were nearly a thousand maritime merchants, and the other side was all included in the inner warehouse. In fact, the inner warehouse was the one who made a big profit.

"Your Majesty, I have given up. In fact, I have taught them not to cut down randomly. After all, these spices generally grow slowly. So while cutting, you must plant seedlings on the other hand, so that you can continuously provide financial resources."

"It is no wonder that it requires a large number of people to carry spices, mining, and farm food."

"Not only these, but also the Thirty-Seventh Road Residence."

"Hey, isn't it the 19th Road Residence?"

"Your Majesty, the place is too large, just like the Mizhou Maritime Warehouse. Some seamen can let the wind blow to the Khitan when they come back from Japan. Therefore, if you want to sail safely, you need at least one hundred settlements, or even more, so that you can sail safely."

“One hundred settlements?”

"Your Majesty, I know that your Majesty's idea is that although it is an overseas place, it has become the Chinese people who live in peace and plant and operate, which theoretically belongs to Your Majesty's territory. But it is not possible now. At least one hundred settlements are built, and after everything stabilizes, the court can send officials to manage it."

"How many people do you need?"

"At least three or four million people."

"so much?"

"Your Majesty, it's so little wrong. If the ministers had not had any disputes, I would encourage these maritime merchants to recruit extremely poor people across the country. It would be best to recruit two million households and more than 10 million people within a few years. Not only will some of the population crisis be solved, but overseas can also be built smoothly. Moreover, these extremely poor people are also a headache for the court. However, when they migrate overseas, they will immediately directly or indirectly bring a large amount of income to the court and the shortage of resources in the court, such as copper and iron. However, the ministers are also afraid, so they have to let the maritime merchants do it themselves." Wang Ju said lightly.

This year, there were two large copper ingots ships and six steel refined by ships.

The Song Dynasty was seriously short of copper and iron.

It is precisely because of this that many ministers watched a large number of migrants in Quanzhou, but they didn't know what to do.

“How to manage it now?”

"Your Majesty, there are thirty settlements, hundreds of thousands of people, less than 20,000 people in each place, which is less than the tenants of the Han Gong family. What is it difficult to manage?" Wang Ju said lightly, in fact, it is very troublesome, not only management, but this is the real pioneering, and countless affairs are coming one after another, but Wang Ju cannot say it.

Wang Ju said again: "By the way, when it comes to immigration, I want to ask Your Majesty, do you have any debts now?"

"besides."

"And..." Wang Ju murmured, not to mention the income he had brought before, just talking about the voyage, indirectly in recent years, it has brought more than 8 million chunks of income to the court every year. But thinking about it, it is relieved that the reform has only been a few years, but in the past few years, the Battle of Qingzhou was first launched, and then the Bianxi River was opened. Xining had a severe drought. Now, the income was large and the expenditure was also large. However, looking at Zhao Xu's face, it was obvious that there was still a deficit, so there was no more.

Therefore, he said: "Your Majesty, although some measures of reform were forced, they did hurt the extremely poor people. In addition, the harvest was not as good as in previous years, but the imperial court did not leniently reduce taxes, so the poor are getting more and more poor. This is the reason why the people have to leave their homes and take the initiative to go overseas. Even though the scale of this migration is huge, there are still more than 100,000 extremely poor people staying in Quanzhou, which makes me helpless. I hope that after the accumulation of debts, Your Majesty will love the people a little more."

Why are so many people willing to escape overseas? The court itself also has to find the reason. But Wang Ju didn't say in depth that Zhao Xu wanted to save money to destroy Xixia and take over Yanyun.

"I also want to leniently..." Zhao Xu did not say that last year, Han Jiang and Wang Anshi had a big conflict over this matter, but the court needed Wang Anshi, so he dismissed Han Jiang from prefecture. However, many officials below reported that Zhao Xu asked Wang Anshi again, and Wang Anshi was sick, so Zhao Xu had to ask again and again, and finally did not mention this matter.

Therefore, he said in his heart, Wang Qing, I can only let you go back to Jiangning to rest again.
Chapter completed!